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Welcome to the Don't Go Unless podcast page! Before we dive in, it’s probably helpful to cover a few things that this show is NOT about. This is NOT about creating long lists of places you’ll never see. This is NOT a show that is going to tell you to get that perfect instagram shot. This is NOT a show designed to regurgitate the typical, vapid travel lists that we’ve all grown so weary of.

This is a show to challenge your assumptions, to ignite your imagination, and to inform your next trip, and every one after that, so each can be the trip of a lifetime. 

Feb 28, 2021

Angel Castellanos, "The Travel Ambassador," joins host Graham Marsden to discuss his trek through inner Mongolia on horseback, and the two discuss Angel's rigorous traveler's persona, as well as matters of sustainability in this country's tourism development. 


Feb 14, 2021

Retail store owner, writer, and tour curator Kristin White discusses recent improvements on matters of racial equity and fair labor standards on her island of Bermuda. We discuss her "eternal" travel persona (her type is SBEC).